God Or Science

Here is an opinion on what to do with the Fort Hood suspect from Concerned Citizen, a typical backwoods trailer trash redneck religious moron who thinks he is right about everything

Well, we do know that he shouted the words “Allah Akbar” [God is Great] which is what the Radical Muslems usually shout at the time of an intended Suicide Bombing. Plus he was a Commissioned Officer in the United States Army, who requested to not go on the Deployment that he was ordered to go on.

Here is the Oath of Office for a Commissioned Army Officer: “I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

In my 10 year military opinion, he needs to be put to death immediately, in order to make an example out of him. Because what signal will that send to our troops if he does not get the Death Penalty.

Put to death immediately. eh? OK! Screw the Constitution you hypocrites keep screaming and crying about all the time. Let’s just drag him from his hospital bed without a trial, chain him to a pole, and skin him alive while Fox News covers it. Or maybe we could impale him on a stick in such a way that it will take days for him to die so that we can maximize his pain.

You think this will deter other terrorists from planning and carrying out future attacks? If you do, you are a fucking idiot.

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Another execution in the USA. You can say this guy deserved it, and I will not argue the point, but my objections to the death penalty have nothing to do with that. If you look at some of the responses, you will see that there was no satisfaction in seeing this guy put down, It brought none of his victims back and no closure to the relatives. It is clear that the people who wanted to see this guy dead weren’t satisfied at the peaceful method of execution, as if there is nothing painful about poison running through your veins and nothing psychologically terrifying about the prospect that you will be dead within a few minutes.

These people, mainly conservatives and jesus freaks, wanted to see this guy suffer. They have never quite emerged from the dark ages, these prophets of ’self-righteousness’. They would no doubt prefer to have seen him drawn and quartered, with a doctor on hand to keep reviving him so that he will endure the maximum pain as his executioners cut him open, disembowel him, and burn his intestines in front of his face as he screams in horror. America use to be a symbol to the world of civilization, but there is nothing as uncivilized as killing a man just to sate the public’s bloodlust.

As I have argued before, none of the arguments used by pro-execution supporters is remotely supported by the evidence. It does NOT stop crime, it does NOT protect the public, and it does not save money. This guy was a threat to nobody anymore where he was. Statistics show that it is much cheaper to keep a convicted felon in prison for the rest of his life than it is to execute him (court costs). States are bankrupt, and they still find the money to put people to death. Why? Because IDIOT AMERICA wants it.

I am sick of these fucking religious hypocrites screaming that they are so pro-life and yet want to see sinners fry because ‘an eye for an eye’ is in their stupid holy book. FUCK THEIR BIBLE AND YOUR STUPID GOD. They preach against porn and download more of it than progressives. They whine about the sanctity of marriage and cheat on their wives as much as liberals, probably more. They call homosexuality an abomination against their make believe god, then blame their favorite scapegoat, the non-existent devil, when they get arrested soliciting sex in the truck stop mens’ room.

D.C. sniper Muhammad executed for 2002 attacks
By DENA POTTER, Associated Press Writer – 5 mins ago

JARRATT, Va. – John Allen Muhammad, the mastermind behind the sniper attacks that left 10 dead, was executed Tuesday as relatives of the victims watched, reliving the killing spree that terrorized the Washington, D.C., area for three weeks in October 2002.

The 48-year-old Muhammad looked calm and stoic, but was twitching and blinking, tapping his left foot as the injections began, defiant to the end, refusing to utter any final words. Victims’ families sat behind glass while watching, separated from the rest of the 27 witnesses, who were quiet, looking straight forward, intent on what was happening.

“He died very peacefully, much more than most of his victims,” saidPrince William County prosecutor Paul Ebert, who witnessed Muhammad die by injection at 9:11 p.m. at Greensville Correctional Center, south of Richmond.

Muhammad was executed for killing Dean Harold Meyers, who was shot in the head at a Manassas gas station during the three-week spree across Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C.

Nelson Rivera, whose wife, Lori Ann Lewis-Rivera, was gunned down as she vacuumed her van at a Maryland gas station, said that when he watched Muhammad’s chest moving for the last time, he was glad.

“I feel better. I think I can breathe better and I’m happy he’s gone because he’s not going to hurt anyone else,” he said.

Muhammad never testified or explained why he directed the shootings, and his secrets died with him.

Meyers’ brother, Bob Meyers, said watching the execution was sobering and “surreal.”

“I would have liked him at some point in the process to take responsibility, to show remorse,” Meyers said. “We didn’t get any of that tonight.”

J. Wyndal Gordon, one of Muhammad’s attorneys, described his client in his final hours as fearless and still insisting he was innocent.

“He will die with dignity — dignity to the point of defiance,” Gordon said.

Victim after victim was shot down while doing everyday chores: shopping, pumping gas, mowing the lawn. One child was shot while walking into his middle school.

The terror ended on Oct. 24, 2002, when police captured Muhammad and his teenage accomplice, Lee Boyd Malvo, while they slept at a Maryland rest stop in a car they had outfitted for a shooter to perch in its trunk without being detected.

Malvo, who was 17 when carrying out the attacks, was sentenced to life in prison without parole for killing Linda Franklin, a 47-year-old FBI analyst who was shot as she and her husband loaded supplies at a Home Depot in Falls Church, Va.

The men also were suspected of fatal shootings in other states, including Louisiana, Alabama and Arizona.

The U.S. Supreme Court turned down Muhammad’s final appeal Monday, and Gov. Timothy M. Kaine denied clemency Tuesday.

Muhammad’s attorneys had asked Kaine to commute his sentence to life in prison because they said Muhammad had brain damage and neurological problems, as well as psychotic and delusional behavior, exacerbated by the Gulf War Syndrome he suffered as a sergeant in the first Iraq war.

“I think crimes that are this horrible, you just can’t understand them, you can’t explain them,” said Kaine, a Democrat known for carefully considering death penalty cases. “They completely dwarf your ability to look into the life of a person who would do something like this and understand why.”

A small group of death penalty opponents gathered on a grassy area near the prison and had a sign reading, “We remember the victims, but not with more killing.”

Muhammad was born John Allen Williams and changed his name after converting to Islam. He had been in and out of the military since he graduated from high school in Louisiana and entered the National Guard. He joined the Army in 1985. He did not take special sniper training but earned an expert rating in the M-16 rifle — the military cousin of the .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle used in the D.C. shootings.

The motive for the attacks remains murky. Malvo said Muhammad wanted to extort $10 million from the government to set up a camp in Canada where homeless children would be trained as terrorists. Muhammad’s ex-wife said she believes they were a smoke screen for his plan to kill her and regain custody of their three children.

Sonia Hollingsworth-Wills, the mother of Conrad Johnson, the last man slain that October, sat in the back seat of a car outside the prison before the execution, which she chose not to witness. But she said she wanted to be there and was counting the minutes until Muhammad’s death.

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Victims, relatives to witness sniper execution
By DENA POTTER, Associated Press Writer

RICHMOND, Va. – Some ache for revenge, others simply for justice. There is frustration, too, and defiance.

For those wounded by the D.C. snipers and for the relatives of those killed, the emotions leading up to the execution of the mastermind behind the 2002 attacks vary as widely as those who found themselves in the cross hairs.

John Allen Muhammad, 48, is set to die by injection in a Virginia prison Nov. 10, seven years after he and his teenage accomplice terrorized the area in and around the nation’s capital for three weeks.

Some family members can’t wait to see Muhammad take his final breath. Others plan to make the trip to Virginia but never step foot on prison grounds.

And there are those who plan to spend the night at home with their families, satisfied that Muhammad is paying for what he’s done but indifferent as to how it will happen.

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